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Re: lords of middle earth vol 2 question
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2018, 03:22:13 PM »
That being said, 106 St, 102 Ag gives +47 (St/St/Ag = +53/+53/+35) stat bonus, level 100 gives +140 (+3 x 20 +1 x 80) bonus level, for a total of +262 for the stats, level and weapon alone. So Hurin only has three ranks in his weapon?  :Joker2:

Good point. The humans are definitely getting the short end of the fighting stick here.
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Re: lords of middle earth vol 2 question
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2018, 07:40:17 PM »
+275 OB, with 106 St, 102 Ag and a +75 axe? Ok, mayhap my NPC with +285 OB, with 101 St, 101 Ag and +25 double-axe is slightly powerful. :flame:
That being said, 106 St, 102 Ag gives +47 (St/St/Ag = +53/+53/+35) stat bonus, level 100 gives +140 (+3 x 20 +1 x 80) bonus level, for a total of +262 for the stats, level and weapon alone. So Hurin only has three ranks in his weapon?  :Joker2:
...or, as with my Elendil example above. +140 for level 100, +135 for 140 skill ranks in 'ba' is the 275 OB, and the GM is expected to add in the +47 for stats and +75 for battle ax, resulting in an actual 397 OB.

These books are stacked with stats, and Lotus 1-2-3 wasn't released until '83, Excel until '85. LoME I was published in '85. It wouldn't be shocking to me that shortcuts were taken so they didn't wear there pencil fingers out  ;)

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Re: lords of middle earth vol 2 question
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2018, 06:35:40 AM »
...or, as with my Elendil example above. +140 for level 100, +135 for 140 skill ranks in 'ba' is the 275 OB, and the GM is expected to add in the +47 for stats and +75 for battle ax, resulting in an actual 397 OB.
Except that, in the case of Angrod, these stat and weapon bonuses seem to have been added? Inconsistency or Elf favorism?
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Re: lords of middle earth vol 2 question
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2018, 10:07:09 PM »
I haven't looked through the immortals book recently, but...wouldn't be surprised if they were calculated differently. For the mannish examples, it seems to play out better the way I'm putting forth...so, right or wrong, it seems like the easiest 'fix' if a fix is needed.

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Re: lords of middle earth vol 2 question
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2018, 10:15:14 PM »
We had this discussion as well in our gaming group.

We figured that a King, a 60th lvl warrior, just might have tried to bring his other abilities up for the last 30years of his life?
I concur...if a person were to rebuild stats of these legendary heroes, a good start would be to outline level advancement during the various phases of the heroes life, and build the skills accordingly. If a warrior fought in continual wars from 14 to 44, his abilities may be primarily combat-related without any real depth anywhere else. But, if he has multiple time periods spent at peace in which he goes back to the farm...different focus on skills developed. Elected/placed in a bureaucratic position...whole new batch of skills.

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