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Re: Misc SW material
« Reply #120 on: September 18, 2016, 04:11:55 PM »
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30) Dark Bolt True - are the subsequent bolts instantaneous actions or do they use AP?

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Re: Misc SW material
« Reply #121 on: September 19, 2016, 02:38:26 AM »
One last thought...GM's may want to limit Orgiana followers to lvl 10-20 spells while/if they have Orgiana banished to the "Black Hel". We ignore that since it came from Demons of the Burning Night and it's non canon.

We did limit Nynaku followers to lvl 10 from that base list since he's imprisoned in a laen orb, but now that the orb has cracked (Northern Eye) they get up to 20th lvl.

I only put Orgiana in the Charon gods because of Demons, so yes, definitely restrict her followers. She is not active at present.
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Re: Misc SW material
« Reply #122 on: September 19, 2016, 01:39:24 PM »
Cleric Base List: Daughters of Inis.
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Re: Misc SW material
« Reply #123 on: September 19, 2016, 02:11:56 PM »
I never thought anyone could make me interested in playing a Cleric of a seduction goddess, but those spells really make me interested. Enchant Garb II is a very powerful spell, as are several others. I also love the flavor on Dance of Distraction.
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Re: Misc SW material
« Reply #124 on: September 20, 2016, 02:48:07 AM »
I never thought anyone could make me interested in playing a Cleric of a seduction goddess, but those spells really make me interested. Enchant Garb II is a very powerful spell, as are several others. I also love the flavor on Dance of Distraction.

Indeed, a 3rd level spell making your clothes AT3 is pretty powerful. In fact, many of these spells are really powerful.
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Re: Misc SW material
« Reply #125 on: September 20, 2016, 07:58:27 AM »
Yes! I would say that the Garb spells could be switched to +5/+10 to db if a GM felt they were too much. On the other side there is a design philosophy behind these Orhan/Charon and the Essence/Channeling/Mentalism I posted up on the other thread. I've actually got pages of notes on each spell list that I drafted before starting Spell Law re-write so I can go back and see what I was thinking and why I made the decisions that I did.

From a broad perspective:

1. We use different spell acquisition rules so spell users have at most 1/2 of the spell lists than traditional RM. Spell users have fewer, more specialized lists rather than the broad range of most open, closed and all base that results in RM.
2. Diety specific base lists are meant to be the defining spell abilities of a priest--and represent the flavor/aspect of the their God. A High Cleric of the God of Fire should stand at least toe to toe, if not surpass, a Magician w/ Fire Law.
3. Many of these Dieties aren't appealing to play a cleric as a PC, so I designed it with some incentives or interesting spells that could add elements to game play or work as a differentiator for the PC. See my blog post: http://www.rolemasterblog.com/players-want-clerics/
4. These Diety Base lists aren't for just any follower of the god, but only to the most devout. ie priests/clerics.

Specifically to Inis:

1. The motivation on the Enchanted Garb is that you have Priestesses in the service of Inis that are basically operating in diaphanous robes or scantily clad in the service of their Goddess. Mostly in urban or social settings. A primary benefit that Inis would want to extend is protecting her priestesses, especially against male foes.
2. The immediate benefit of Enchanted Garb is offset by some of the other spells like "Kiss" spells. These don't just require touch but an actual kiss to the target which will necessitate some roleplaying or creates some limitations on their use.
3. While Garb provides protection and Battle Dance allows the Priestess to engage multiple foes with less penalties there are no combat bonus spells or similar buffs. The Priestess isn't meant to be combat effective in a traditional battle but HIGHLY effective in a social setting against men with their guards done, unarmored and unsuspecting. Put a Priestess of Inis in a mixed melee against monsters/creatures or armored foes and a AT3 isn't going to be a game changer.

Just a few thoughts! Terry--I'll always defer to your feedback and experience. Hurin, if these spells made you interested in playing a Priestess of Inis than I feel I succeeded at least partially!


Lastly I would encourage anyone to tweak these as they see fit. I've put up well over a 100 new/rewritten lists and my group has certainly not tested even 25% of them
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Re: Misc SW material
« Reply #126 on: September 20, 2016, 12:29:13 PM »
Base List for Clerics of Kesh'ta'kai.

This is an older list that I haven't worked on in a few years. Since then I've redone our rules for written magic: sigils, glyphs, signs, symbols, circles, runes, wards etc.
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« Reply #127 on: September 24, 2016, 03:52:45 PM »
Base list for Priests of Andaras.

We had some fun with this--both "Fixation" and "Obsession" are great with good roleplayers.
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« Reply #128 on: September 26, 2016, 06:13:42 PM »
Someone pointed out something and it looks like the Andaras list has some Scalu spells in it. Thats what I get posting these up in a hurry and using older versions, though Im not sure what happened.

Anyway, I'll put up a corrected Andaras list plus Z'taar.
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Re: Misc SW material
« Reply #129 on: September 30, 2016, 01:41:11 PM »
Any idea when you will be posting the Z'taar list? We craves to sees it.

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Re: Misc SW material
« Reply #130 on: October 01, 2016, 01:34:22 PM »
Any idea when you will be posting the Z'taar list? We craves to sees it.

For a long time we used a simplified version of the "Unholy Warrior" lists for our Clerics of Z'taar
http://www.ironcrown.com/ICEforums/index.php?topic=16688.msg203401#msg203401

I kept going back and forth between the clerics being warriors themselves or as more support for warriors (as would be the typical role of a cleric). So should the spells be combat buffs for the cleric or combat buffs for other fighters? Eventually we fleshed out the  "Battle-Priests of Z'taar" and the list ended up being a combination of the two. (I didn't think Z'taar would appreciate his clerics acting only in a support role!)

I had hoped to have the remainder of the Charon base lists up this past week but I had to go out and do that "earn a living" thing that pops up now and then. Z'taar should be up soon.
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Re: Misc SW material
« Reply #131 on: October 03, 2016, 05:45:05 AM »
Have you considered making the clerics of Z'taar semi spell users? To enable them to act independently as frontline fighters and as "buffers" - or something like what you did with the Cay list.

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Re: Misc SW material
« Reply #132 on: October 03, 2016, 12:18:59 PM »
Have you considered making the clerics of Z'taar semi spell users? To enable them to act independently as frontline fighters and as "buffers" - or something like what you did with the Cay list.

I think a GM could easily do that--make the "Battle-Priests" using the Paladin skill costs and replacing or adding the Z'taar Base list.

I have a "Kulthean Religion Addendum" almost done and will submit to Terry/Nicholas as a published product or for the SW PDF series discussed in this forum. It includes the "Battle-Priests" and their organization.
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Re: Misc SW material
« Reply #133 on: October 03, 2016, 02:44:03 PM »
I have a "Kulthean Religion Addendum" almost done and will submit to Terry/Nicholas as a published product or for the SW PDF series discussed in this forum. It includes the "Battle-Priests" and their organization.

So there's progress on the PDF. That's good to hear. Wonder if we might get one this year.
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« Reply #134 on: October 04, 2016, 12:30:55 AM »
I have a "Kulthean Religion Addendum" almost done and will submit to Terry/Nicholas as a published product or for the SW PDF series discussed in this forum. It includes the "Battle-Priests" and their organization.

So there's progress on the PDF. That's good to hear. Wonder if we might get one this year.
Progress insomuch as my submission. Obviously content needs Terry's approval and Nicholas' decision on publishing channel. I like the pdf idea but it may or may not fit into company strategy/resources--above my paygrade!
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« Reply #135 on: October 04, 2016, 08:09:17 AM »
I'm going to count that as progress anyway!  :)
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Re: Misc SW material
« Reply #136 on: October 05, 2016, 12:51:08 PM »
Base List for the Battle-Priests of Z'taar!!
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« Reply #137 on: October 05, 2016, 02:31:58 PM »
Fun stuff! Especially for NPC bad guys.
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Re: Misc SW material
« Reply #138 on: October 11, 2016, 02:27:03 PM »
Base List for Clerics of Scalu.

This was a tricky one that we've modified in our current version (fewer range iterations to free up some slots) and allows for some additional abilities/control over the target during Dream Commune. Tricky as a PC spell list but great for NPC's to " dream haunt" a player.
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« Reply #139 on: October 14, 2016, 02:19:55 PM »
Base Lists for Priests of Moralis.
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