Author Topic: Resurrecting the Nomikos Library? (Read 9338 times)

egdcltd · « **on:** June 07, 2015, 09:53:01 AM »

I know the original site ran into problems, but how about creating a new timeline site (it was useful)? Perhaps using a wiki, maybe on wikia.com?

brandivil · « **Reply #1 on:** June 16, 2015, 08:25:35 AM »

I've created master timeline across all era's...also broke this down by every continent, country, city and area...I'm assuming the reason why no one has resurrected this database is due to copyright rules that need to be enforced and managed (i.e. proof of purchase of an edition of Master Atlas)?

egdcltd · « **Reply #2 on:** June 16, 2015, 01:26:41 PM »

I'm not sure if it would be a problem, at least just for doing the timeline, and as long as it wasn't done for commercial purposes (such as having it on your own site with advertising).

I had considered making a wiki (in my copious free time) putting everything on to it, but that would have to be either protected or locally hosted.

brandivil · « **Reply #3 on:** June 17, 2015, 03:46:46 PM »

Any ideas how to progress this?

egdcltd · « **Reply #4 on:** June 18, 2015, 04:20:23 AM »

I think it will sort of depend on what is officially wanted. Would a wiki on Wikia be preferred? Or would a site under official control be a preference?

For a timeline, I had thought of organising it the same way that Wikipedia does, with pages for millennia, centuries, years, months and days as appropriate. I'd also consider using references to show where a particular timeline entry came from, linking to the relevant product on RPGNow where applicable, and whether it has been superseded by a later publication.

brandivil · « **Reply #5 on:** June 20, 2015, 09:01:51 AM »

Personally, I don't think there should be a wiki - far too easy for players (non-GMs) to get hold of the background material, too tempting. Would prefer that if players were going to go for spoilers that they pay for that (i.e. buy an atlas etc). My preference would be for a controlled site (i.e. TKA oversight) accessible through registering - just keeps away the easily tempted and keeps it accurate to TKA's latest SW thinking?

egdcltd · « **Reply #6 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:25:59 AM »

The original Nomikos Library site ran on WordPress - I don't think there were any registration requirements, but I can no longer remember.

Needing to register doesn't invalidate use of a wiki; it would simply mean that a site such as Wikia couldn't be used. Wikis are quite flexible and a protected wiki on a site could be used.

brandivil · « **Reply #7 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:44:51 AM »

I'm good with that...now just about copyright approval?

vroomfogle · « **Reply #8 on:** June 20, 2015, 05:20:10 PM »

The original site did run on WordPress, and it did require registering - you had to answer a specific question about one of the Atlases.

I still have the original data, but only as an old sql database, and as a text dump. It's also grown out of date with the latest books so it's probably not as useful as a starting point then what brandivil has.

Nomikos didn't have just timeline entries, it also had all the little stories and snippets, journals, quotes, etc. from all the books, which was useful, but the search never worked very well.

brandivil · « **Reply #9 on:** June 21, 2015, 05:13:31 AM »

Matt, were you asked to provide a secure access method proving ownership of a MA edition by ICE or another?

vroomfogle · « **Reply #10 on:** June 21, 2015, 11:38:57 AM »

I don't remember who's idea it was, I think I might have come up with the idea of needing proof of ownership by answering questions, and they were fine with that. My motivation as that I didn't just want the entire timeline out there in the public being indexed and searchable by anyone.

brandivil · « **Reply #11 on:** June 22, 2015, 05:36:40 AM »

100% behind your thinking.

Who in ICE do we need permission from to get this set up?

vroomfogle · « **Reply #12 on:** June 22, 2015, 09:27:04 AM »

You'll want to talk to Nicholas.

Terry K. Amthor · « **Reply #13 on:** June 22, 2015, 09:34:45 AM »

Quote from: Matt Hanson on June 22, 2015, 09:27:04 AM

You'll want to talk to Nicholas.

Actually I own the Shadow World IP, and I would be fine with it if there was some proof of purchase like Matt had previously... but we should also talk to Nicholas and GCP.

brandivil · « **Reply #14 on:** June 22, 2015, 05:46:06 PM »

Thanks Terry!

We should probably put a proposal of sorts together to show how the site would work and contain for Terry's, Nicholas' and others approval?

Terry K. Amthor · « **Reply #15 on:** June 22, 2015, 06:54:39 PM »

I would add that Matt's database was awesome, and in fact I used it many times as a convenient and easy place to find timeline facts...

brandivil · « **Reply #16 on:** June 25, 2015, 07:13:17 AM »

is that a polite request to use your database rather than anyone else's?

(I for one would prefer your database)

brandivil · « **Reply #17 on:** June 28, 2015, 10:21:24 AM »

Ops! Misread that...so ignore my previous statement if you could.

To move on, I was thinking that the website could provide the following:

Master Timeline: General all in timeline summary for all places combined for Kulthea. This would be a summary of all timelines from all the latest modules and MA.

Timeline for each Continent
Timeline for each Area/Realm/Country
Timeline for each major population settlement
Could do timeline for every place mentioned (ok with doing this also)

Accessing would require proof of purchase of said sources used for timelines?

What else are we missing?

starflt · « **Reply #18 on:** July 14, 2015, 01:28:11 AM »

Hmm, is someone moving forward with this? I made a local copy of Matt's data many years ago for my own reference and supplemented it with some additional info so would be interested in helping...

brandivil · « **Reply #19 on:** August 19, 2015, 10:14:31 AM »

Was waiting for a nudge on how to proceed with approvals

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