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Offline Marc R

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Re: Solutions to Absolution
« Reply #60 on: January 23, 2008, 12:28:51 PM »
Same here. . .

OK, in that light, I'd say "Definitely doesn't work pre-emptively."
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Re: Solutions to Absolution
« Reply #61 on: January 23, 2008, 01:20:54 PM »
Lifekeeping - [Caster can prevent the soul of a "dead" body from leaving, thus preventing an actual death and enabling the fallen beeing to be restored via simple bodily repairs]

In my book it cant get much clearer than that.
The spell stops the soul from saying "Ah, bother, this one is dead. Well, I'm outta here". i.e stops it from doing what it normally does when a body dies. The soul is convinced to hang on a bit longer.

Absolution is a spell that ripps the soul from the living body. It does not ask what the soul wants, it ripps it, kicking and screaming, from the body. The two spells are not related.
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Re: Solutions to Absolution
« Reply #62 on: January 23, 2008, 01:38:42 PM »
I concur. . .self keeping won't work against absolution either.

we tangented a bit. . .I just don't think Lifekeeping will work without a dead body to target (i.e. it cannot be used pre-emptively like "Self Keeping" can.)
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Re: Solutions to Absolution
« Reply #63 on: January 23, 2008, 03:00:49 PM »
 Sounds right looking at it again.
So, Lifekeeping is only useful AFTER the bad thing has happened. No help otherwise.
 And Self Keeping is SELF so if you can still cast it you must have survived the Absoultion already.

Even Contingency would be too late beacuse the soul is already removed.

Ok, little clairafications always help smouth out the game. ;D

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Re: Solutions to Absolution
« Reply #64 on: January 23, 2008, 03:31:32 PM »
You could contingency a Lifegiving to go off if your soul departs. . . .would pop for an absolution. . .would be wasted if you have an arrow through your chest. . .and wouldn't do anything for a dark absolution.
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Re: Solutions to Absolution
« Reply #65 on: January 26, 2008, 08:24:54 AM »
There is a self keeping spell on Self Healing, open mentalism...and on monk base...IIRC.

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Monk Base, Body Reins, lvl 20 - Self Keeping S*

Given Lifekeeping says "dead body" and "within 2 minutes of 'death'" I'd rule no pre-emptive casting.

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Re: Solutions to Absolution
« Reply #66 on: January 26, 2008, 01:18:45 PM »
LM- I think your off on the contingency working for regular Absoulition.
With both Absoulition and Dark absoulition the soul is removed instantaly. Lifekeeping seems to only be useful if
     A- the body is "dead"
     B- the soul had not "moved on" ie. still in body.
Both forms of Absoulition prevent requirement B.  :)

Sound right?
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Re: Solutions to Absolution
« Reply #67 on: January 26, 2008, 04:20:26 PM »
You could contingency a Lifegiving to go off if your soul departs. . . .would pop for an absolution. . .would be wasted if you have an arrow through your chest. . .and wouldn't do anything for a dark absolution.

The devil is in the detail. . .I don't think a lifekeeping will work either, but if you could get a lifeGIVING to go off any time you experience soul departure, that would turn an absolution into a 1 round knockdown. . .but as I said, it'd be useless for physical damage or dark absolution.
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Re: Solutions to Absolution
« Reply #68 on: January 26, 2008, 05:20:15 PM »
Very specific contingency. Would work for Arioch's scenario as preperation (if they can find it) for attacking the cult ;D
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